Podcast | Fauci: Sinner or Saint? What the Diaries Really Show

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Eighty-five years old, under subpoena, and asked the same question until he pled the Fifth 111 times. To Senator Rand Paul, that looks like a confession. In this episode, part of "The Middle Way" series, Jeff Krasno tries to hold two true things at once: Fauci's diaries reveal real vanity and overconfidence, and the push to make those flaws the central crime of the pandemic is disproportionate.

• Why pleading the Fifth isn't the admission it looks like on TV
• What's actually in the 1,141 pages of diaries, and what isn't
• The lab leak theory, the furin cleavage site, and where the evidence really sits
• Gain-of-function research, the EcoHealth grant, and two very different definitions of the same phrase
• Why masks, Trump, and institutional trust all belong in this story too

This episode is for anyone trying to make sense of the Fauci hearings without picking a side handed to them by cable news.

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About the Commune Podcast

Hosted by Jeff Krasno, the Commune podcast features thoughtful conversations for modern times. Not always comfortable but definitely needed, we explore both humanity and our human-ness. How can we live healthy, purpose-filled lives and be in service of something bigger? Guests include spiritual teachers, poets, scientists, philosophers, and activists for food sustainability, functional medicine, mental and physical health, and collective healing.