Podcast | MAHA vs. Anti-MAHA: Why Nuance Matters in Public Health

Dec 04, 2025

Or, listen on Spotify


In this episode of the Commune Podcast, Jeff unpacks a recent panel he moderated at the Eudemonia Summit featuring Dr. Will Cole and Dr. Jessica Knurick — two smart, thoughtful voices who deeply disagree about the MAHA movement and the future of public health.

Jeff reflects on why nuanced conversations are so difficult in an online environment engineered for polarization, and why real understanding requires asking honest questions and making space for a respectful exchange. He explores the points of tension around chronic disease, regulatory capture, environmental health, and the political contradictions embedded in the current public health debate.

This episode also looks at the broader policy landscape — from SNAP reform to environmental regulation — and why meaningful progress demands both personal responsibility and systemic guardrails.

If you’ve felt overwhelmed by the noise in the public health world, this conversation offers a grounded, thoughtful, and surprisingly hopeful reframe.


About the Commune Podcast

Hosted by Jeff Krasno, the Commune podcast features thoughtful conversations for modern times. Not always comfortable but definitely needed, we explore both humanity and our human-ness. How can we live healthy, purpose-filled lives and be in service of something bigger? Guests include spiritual teachers, poets, scientists, philosophers, and activists for food sustainability, functional medicine, mental and physical health, and collective healing.

Leading teachers, life-changing courses...

Your path to a happier, healthier life

Get access to our library of over 100 courses on health and nutrition, spirituality, creativity, breathwork and meditation, relationships, personal growth, sustainability, social impact and leadership.

Try Membership Free for 14 Days

Stay connected with Commune

Receive our weekly Commusings newsletter + free course announcements!